Our “Friends”…Always On The Other Side
If he wins, the Sunday Telegraph tells us:
…Mr Obama is already preparing to ask Britain to commit an additional 3,000 troops to Afghanistan…
Well, the Senator might like to know that if one group of people have their way, we wouldn’t get that help. Yet again. The BBC reports:
A homecoming parade for soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan has passed off peacefully in Belfast…
…Sinn Féin protesters took part in a demonstration against the British Army’s role in the Troubles…
…Sinn Féin said it was inappropriate to mark the homecoming because British troops were responsible for the deaths of Catholic civilians during the Troubles…
Bear in mind that “the Troubles” were at their worst back in the 1960s-1970s and are generally considered to be over for some years now. Understand, too, that there are Catholics in the British military, most British soldiers regardless of religion overall are — like young Americans — today far too young to have shot at anyone in Northern Ireland, and that those soldiers were returned from fighting far afield from Northern Ireland after helping us, the United States.
Nonetheless, directly making his case, the BBC tells us “senior republican” Jim Gibney wrote in an Irish newspaper:
…”To expect Sinn Fein to somehow pretend Sunday’s march is not happening in a city which has experienced the worst excesses of the British army’s occupation is to expect Sinn Fein to reject its raison d’etre.
“If those cheerleaders for the British crown forces want to appreciate how nationalists and republicans feel about Sunday’s coat-trailing exercise then they should ask themselves how they would react if the Belfast Brigade of the IRA announced they intended to march their volunteers through the centre of Belfast in tribute to all its members who lost their lives during the war.”…
As per usual, the only “war” that matters? Theirs. The citing of “the Troubles” by the hard left Sinn Féin is a typical whitewash attempt to try to avoid the bigger issue which Irish republicans do NOT want Americans ever to think too much about.
Well, we should. Remember, independent Ireland to the south infamously sat out WWII while U.S. ships were sunk by Nazi U-boats miles off the Irish coast. And why?
Because the United Kingdom was fighting Nazi Germany also, and whatever side the UK is on, Irish republicans MUST be on the other side. Or they must claim to be “neutral.” Or, as some did during WWII, they even tacitly (and sickly, some even overtly) back Nazi Germany . . . because Hitler was fighting the United Kingdom.
That’s apparently called having your moral priorities firmly in order. After all, a Nazi win would have really shown them crown loving, cheerleading British. (That the Nazis would have walked into Ireland after conquering Britain? Never crosses a republican mind. Or they liked the idea.)
And, as we can see, still it continues. Forget Iraq and concentrate solely on Afghanistan, for example. Today, American attempts to get back at the people who tried to destroy NY and Washington have been opposed from the very start in 2001 by Sinn Féin. Again, and why?
Once more, in the first instance, because Sinn Féin CANNOT be on the same side as the United Kingdom. Not ever.
Yet consider this too. Many people in the States have over the last hundred years given Irish republicanism a great deal of money and moral support. And, in return, what have we ever gotten back? Nothing.
Many Americans have backed Sinn Féin, and yet when has Sinn Féin ever stood with Americans? Never.
Sinn Féin — “Ourselves Alone,” let us not forget — are NOT America’s friends. Ever happy to put their hands out in the States to seek “contributions” towards “the liberation” they are. However, if America ever needs the slightest from Sinn Féin, what do we get?: jeered and condemned as “imperialists,” and the list goes on.
So if he does ask, and Britain tries to find those 3,000 additional troops and if some likely come from Northern Ireland, a President Obama will soon see that for himself, too.
In fact, how many American soldiers are alive today only because they are in Afghanistan with those “crown forces” alongside? Come to think of it, considering the depth of many Americans’ support for Sinn Féin, why don’t we see a “Belfast Brigade” of the IRA in Afghanistan? Indeed, after all the killing and bombing Irish republicans have been responsible for over the decades, we should consider ourselves extra-fortunate we have a British ally that hadn’t written America off, and might well be able to help us with those additional British troops.
Yes, and talk about a legacy of “troubles.” Here’s one Barack Obama, suddenly perhaps to become leader of the country where he might well have been a slave 150 years ago and probably would have been denied lunch counter service at eateries in some places 45 years ago? Thank goodness at least some people politically grow up eventually.



“Remember, independent Ireland to the south infamously sat out WWII while U.S. ships were sunk by Nazi U-boats miles off the Irish coast. And why?
Because the United Kingdom was fighting Nazi Germany also, and whatever side the UK is on, Irish republicans MUST be on the other side. Or they must claim to be “neutral.” Or, as some did during WWII, they even tacitly (and sickly, some even overtly) back Nazi Germany . . . because Hitler was fighting the United Kingdom.”
Yes, but I think you have to be very careful to draw a line between the Irish Government and a large proportion of the Irish people here. I remember reading an article a couple of years ago that pointed out by the wars end there were a few hundred thousand Irish nationals fighting in British Forces. Since the draft was never imposed in the north (for fear of upsetting SF naturally) there was actually a higher proportion of the Eire population in the UK forces than Ulstermen. It’s reckoned something like a third of the pre-war Irish army just upped sticks in 1939-40, deserted and turned up at British recruiting stations. Few Irish have no relatives in Britain to allow them to claim allegiance with and it’s not like recruiters at the time were exactly being fussy (one of my uncles joined the navy at 14!). Post-war Churchill actually went to the trouble of making a speech specifically thanking them (though he got in a few digs at De Valera while he was on the subject too, naturally!). It seemes plenty of Irish didn’t think Adolf would be happy stopping at Enniskillen either. Though of course the Brits would say they just didn’t like the idea of missing the big fight
Thanks for the extra insights, Bill. Oh yes, quite a few individual Irish did volunteer to fight Nazi Germany in the UK forces, no question. And Irish nationals resident in Great Britain — as distinct from NI — were, as I understand it, subject to conscription.
My rub here is fundamentally with a republican political leadership of an Eire that sat out WWII, and has subsequently never ceased to try to define “Irish independence” through being at odds with London — irregardless of whether the rest of the world could be simultaneously going to blazes.
Essentially, while never failing to condemn current U.S. foreign policy, they have been given a disgraceful pass on they themselves having failed to take the most obvious moral stand of the last 100 years. That should just prompt a thought by us Americans on any assumptions we may have about whom we believe our real “friends” are.
Oh, and from the ping above we can see that Kathryn has migrated to WordPress…